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Book 18 - Chapter 9

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<w lemma="%2Apa%2Fntwn">Πάντων</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="paro%2Fntwn">παρόντων</w> <w lemma="dusarestoume%2Fnwn">δυσαρεστουμένων</w> <w lemma="th%3D%7C">τῇ</w> <w lemma="dialu%2Fsei">διαλύσει</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="fasko%2Fntwn">φασκόντων</w> <w lemma="dei%3Dn">δεῖν</w> <w lemma="to%5C">τὸ</w> <w lemma="koino%5Cn">κοινὸν</w> <w lemma="e%29pi%2Ftagma">ἐπίταγμα</w> <w lemma="prw%3Dton">πρῶτον</w> <w lemma="poiei%3Dn">ποιεῖν</w> — <w lemma="tou%3Dto">τοῦτο</w> <w lemma="d%27">δ᾽</w> <w lemma="h%29%3Dn">ἦν</w> <w lemma="a%28pa%2Fshs">ἁπάσης</w> <w lemma="e%29kxwrei%3Dn">ἐκχωρεῖν</w> <w lemma="th%3Ds">τῆς</w> <w lemma="%2A%28ella%2Fdos">Ἑλλάδος</w> — <w lemma="ei%29">εἰ</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="mh%2F">μή</w>, <w lemma="dio%2Fti">διότι</w> <w lemma="ta%5C">τὰ</w> <w lemma="kata%5C">κατὰ</w> <w lemma="me%2Fros">μέρος</w> <w lemma="ma%2Ftaia">μάταια</w> <w lemma="gi%2Fnetai">γίνεται</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="pro%5Cs">πρὸς</w> <w lemma="ou%29de%2Fn">οὐδέν</w>,
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<w lemma="qewrw%3Dn">θεωρῶν</w> <w lemma="o%28">ὁ</w> <w lemma="%2Afi%2Flippos">Φίλιππος</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="e%29n">ἐν</w> <w lemma="au%29toi%3Ds">αὐτοῖς</w> <w lemma="a%29mfisbh%2Fthsin">ἀμφισβήτησιν</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="dediw%5Cs">δεδιὼς</w> <w lemma="a%28%2Fma">ἅμα</w> <w lemma="ta%5Cs">τὰς</w> <w lemma="kathgori%2Fas">κατηγορίας</w>, <w lemma="h%29ci%2Fou">ἠξίου</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2Ati%2Fton">Τίτον</w> <w lemma="u%28perqe%2Fsqai">ὑπερθέσθαι</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="su%2Fnodon">σύνοδον</w> <w lemma="ei%29s">εἰς</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="au%29%2Frion">αὔριον</w> <w lemma="dia%5C">διὰ</w> <w lemma="to%5C">τὸ</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="w%28%2Fran">ὥραν</w> <w lemma="ei%29s">εἰς</w> <w lemma="o%29ye%5C">ὀψὲ</w> <w lemma="sugklei%2Fein:">συγκλείειν·</w> <w lemma="h%29%5C">ἢ</w> <w lemma="ga%5Cr">γὰρ</w> <w lemma="pei%2Fsein">πείσειν</w> <w lemma="h%29%5C">ἢ</w> <w lemma="peisqh%2Fsesqai">πεισθήσεσθαι</w> <w lemma="toi%3Ds">τοῖς</w> <w lemma="parakaloume%2Fnois">παρακαλουμένοις</w>.
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<w lemma="tou%3D">τοῦ</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="sugxwrh%2Fsantos">συγχωρήσαντος</w>, <w lemma="taca%2Fmenoi">ταξάμενοι</w> <w lemma="sumporeu%2Fesqai">συμπορεύεσθαι</w> <w lemma="pro%5Cs">πρὸς</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="kata%5C">κατὰ</w> <w lemma="%2Aqro%2Fnion">Θρόνιον</w> <w lemma="ai%29gialo%2Fn">αἰγιαλόν</w>, <w lemma="to%2Fte">τότε</w> <w lemma="me%5Cn">μὲν</w> <w lemma="e%29xwri%2Fsqhsan">ἐχωρίσθησαν</w>, <w lemma="th%3D%7C">τῇ</w> <w lemma="d%27">δ᾽</w> <w lemma="u%28sterai%2Fa%7C">ὑστεραίᾳ</w> <w lemma="pa%2Fntes">πάντες</w> <w lemma="h%28%3Dkon">ἧκον</w> <w lemma="e%29pi%5C">ἐπὶ</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="taxqe%2Fnta">ταχθέντα</w> <w lemma="to%2Fpon">τόπον</w> <w lemma="e%29n">ἐν</w> <w lemma="w%28%2Fra%7C">ὥρᾳ</w>.
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<w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="braxe%2Fa">βραχέα</w> <w lemma="dialexqei%5Cs">διαλεχθεὶς</w> <w lemma="o%28">ὁ</w> <w lemma="%2Afi%2Flippos">Φίλιππος</w> <w lemma="h%29ci%2Fou">ἠξίου</w> <w lemma="pa%2Fntas">πάντας</w>, <w lemma="ma%2Flista">μάλιστα</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2Ati%2Fton">Τίτον</w>, <w lemma="mh%5C">μὴ</w> <w lemma="diako%2Fyai">διακόψαι</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="dia%2Flusin">διάλυσιν</w>, <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="ge">γε</w> <w lemma="dh%5C">δὴ</w> <w lemma="plei%2Fstwn">πλείστων</w> <w lemma="ei%29s">εἰς</w> <w lemma="sumbatikh%5Cn">συμβατικὴν</w> <w lemma="dia%2Fqesin">διάθεσιν</w> <w lemma="h%29gme%2Fnwn">ἠγμένων</w>,
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<w lemma="a%29ll%27">ἀλλ᾽</w> <w lemma="ei%29">εἰ</w> <w lemma="me%5Cn">μὲν</w> <w lemma="e%29nde%2Fxetai">ἐνδέχεται</w> <w lemma="di%27">δι᾽</w> <w lemma="au%28tw%3Dn">αὑτῶν</w> <w lemma="sumfw%2Fnous">συμφώνους</w> <w lemma="gene%2Fsqai">γενέσθαι</w> <w lemma="peri%5C">περὶ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="a%29ntilegome%2Fnwn:">ἀντιλεγομένων·</w> <w lemma="ei%29">εἰ</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="mh%2F">μή</w>, <w lemma="presbeu%2Fsein">πρεσβεύσειν</w> <w lemma="e%29%2Ffh">ἔφη</w> <w lemma="pro%5Cs">πρὸς</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="su%2Fgklhton">σύγκλητον</w>, <w lemma="ka%29kei%2Fnhn">κἀκείνην</w> <w lemma="pei%2Fsein">πείσειν</w> <w lemma="peri%5C">περὶ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="a%29mfisbhtoume%2Fnwn">ἀμφισβητουμένων</w>, <w lemma="h%29%5C">ἢ</w> <w lemma="poih%2Fsein">ποιήσειν</w> <w lemma="o%28%2F">ὅ</w>, <w lemma="ti">τι</w> <w lemma="pot%27">ποτ᾽</w> <w lemma="a%29%5Cn">ἂν</w> <w lemma="e%29pita%2Ftth%7C">ἐπιτάττῃ</w>.
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<w lemma="tau%3Dta">ταῦτα</w> <w lemma="d%27">δ᾽</w> <w lemma="au%29tou%3D">αὐτοῦ</w> <w lemma="protei%2Fnontos">προτείνοντος</w>, <w lemma="oi%28">οἱ</w> <w lemma="me%5Cn">μὲν</w> <w lemma="a%29%2Flloi">ἄλλοι</w> <w lemma="pa%2Fntes">πάντες</w> <w lemma="e%29%2Ffasan">ἔφασαν</w> <w lemma="dei%3Dn">δεῖν</w> <w lemma="pra%2Fttein">πράττειν</w> <w lemma="ta%5C">τὰ</w> <w lemma="tou%3D">τοῦ</w> <w lemma="pole%2Fmou">πολέμου</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="mh%5C">μὴ</w> <w lemma="prose%2Fxein">προσέχειν</w> <w lemma="toi%3Ds">τοῖς</w> <w lemma="a%29cioume%2Fnois">ἀξιουμένοις</w>.
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<w lemma="o%28">ὁ</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="%2A%28rwmai%2Fwn">Ῥωμαίων</w> <w lemma="strathgo%5Cs">στρατηγὸς</w> <w lemma="ou%29k">οὐκ</w> <w lemma="a%29gnoei%3Dn">ἀγνοεῖν</w> <w lemma="me%5Cn">μὲν</w> <w lemma="ou%29d%27">οὐδ᾽</w> <w lemma="au%29to%5Cs">αὐτὸς</w> <w lemma="e%29%2Ffh">ἔφη</w> <w lemma="dio%2Fti">διότι</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2Afi%2Flippon">Φίλιππον</w> <w lemma="ou%29k">οὐκ</w> <w lemma="ei%29ko%2Fs">εἰκός</w> <w lemma="e%29sti">ἐστι</w> <w lemma="poih%3Dsai">ποιῆσαι</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="parakaloume%2Fnwn">παρακαλουμένων</w> <w lemma="ou%29de%2Fn:">οὐδέν·</w>
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<w lemma="tw%3D%7C">τῷ</w> <w lemma="d%27">δ᾽</w> <w lemma="a%28plw%3Ds">ἁπλῶς</w> <w lemma="mhde%5Cn">μηδὲν</w> <w lemma="e%29mpodi%2Fzein">ἐμποδίζειν</w> <w lemma="ta%5Cs">τὰς</w> <w lemma="sfete%2Fras">σφετέρας</w> <w lemma="pra%2Fceis">πράξεις</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="ai%29toume%2Fnhn">αἰτουμένην</w> <w lemma="xa%2Frin">χάριν</w> <w lemma="u%28po%5C">ὑπὸ</w> <w lemma="tou%3D">τοῦ</w> <w lemma="basile%2Fws">βασιλέως</w> <w lemma="e%29kpoiei%3Dn">ἐκποιεῖν</w> <w lemma="e%29%2Ffh">ἔφη</w> <w lemma="xari%2Fzesqai">χαρίζεσθαι</w>.
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<w lemma="kurwqh%3Dnai">κυρωθῆναι</w> <w lemma="me%5Cn">μὲν</w> <w lemma="ga%5Cr">γὰρ</w> <w lemma="ou%29d%27">οὐδ᾽</w> <w lemma="w%28%5Cs">ὣς</w> <w lemma="ei%29%3Dnai">εἶναι</w> <w lemma="dunato%5Cn">δυνατὸν</w> <w lemma="ou%29de%5Cn">οὐδὲν</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="nu%3Dn">νῦν</w> <w lemma="legome%2Fnwn">λεγομένων</w> <w lemma="a%29%2Fneu">ἄνευ</w> <w lemma="th%3Ds">τῆς</w> <w lemma="sugklh%2Ftou">συγκλήτου</w>, <w lemma="pro%5Cs">πρὸς</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="to%5C">τὸ</w> <w lemma="labei%3Dn">λαβεῖν</w> <w lemma="pei%3Dran">πεῖραν</w> <w lemma="th%3Ds">τῆς</w> <w lemma="e%29kei%2Fnwn">ἐκείνων</w> <w lemma="gnw%2Fmhs">γνώμης</w> <w lemma="eu%29fuw%3Ds">εὐφυῶς</w> <w lemma="e%29%2Fxein">ἔχειν</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="e%29pifero%2Fmenon">ἐπιφερόμενον</w> <w lemma="kairo%2Fn:">καιρόν·</w>
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<w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="ga%5Cr">γὰρ</w> <w lemma="stratope%2Fdwn">στρατοπέδων</w> <w lemma="ou%29d%27">οὐδ᾽</w> <w lemma="w%28%5Cs">ὣς</w> <w lemma="duname%2Fnwn">δυναμένων</w> <w lemma="ou%29de%5Cn">οὐδὲν</w> <w lemma="pra%2Fttein">πράττειν</w> <w lemma="dia%5C">διὰ</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="xeimw%3Dna">χειμῶνα</w>, <w lemma="tou%3Dton">τοῦτον</w> <w lemma="a%29poqe%2Fsqai">ἀποθέσθαι</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="xro%2Fnon">χρόνον</w> <w lemma="ei%29s">εἰς</w> <w lemma="to%5C">τὸ</w> <w lemma="prosanenegkei%3Dn">προσανενεγκεῖν</w> <w lemma="th%3D%7C">τῇ</w> <w lemma="sugklh%2Ftw%7C">συγκλήτῳ</w> <w lemma="peri%5C">περὶ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="prospipto%2Fntwn">προσπιπτόντων</w>, <w lemma="ou%29k">οὐκ</w> <w lemma="a%29%2Fqeton">ἄθετον</w>, <w lemma="a%29ll%27">ἀλλ᾽</w> <w lemma="oi%29kei%3Don">οἰκεῖον</w> <w lemma="ei%29%3Dnai">εἶναι</w> <w lemma="pa%3Dsi">πᾶσι</w>.
When all present expressed their dissatisfaction with these terms and maintained that Philip should in the first place execute their common demand — that is withdraw from the whole of Greece, apart from which the different concessions were absurd and worthless —
Philip, noticing the discussion that was going on and fearing the complaints they would bring against him, proposed to Flamininus to adjourn the conference till next day because, apart from other things, it was getting late: then he said he would either convince them or be convinced of the justice of their demands.
Flamininus yielded to this request and after agreeing to meet on the beach at <a class="linkToPlace" target="_blank" href="/place?placename=Thronion&groupId=1031&placeId=1819">Thronion</a> they separated, and all next day arrived in time at the appointed place.
Philip now in a short speech begged them all and especially Flamininus not to break off Megalopolitans now that they were on the verge of a settlement of most questions, but if possible to come to an agreement among themselves about the disputed points.
If not, however, he said he would send an embassy to the senate and either persuade that body about these points or do whatever it ordered him.
On his making this proposal all the others said they ought to continue the war and not accede to the request; but the Roman general said that while he too was quite aware that there was no probability of Philip's really doing anything the demanded, yet as the king's request in no way interfered with their own action, it perfectly suited them to grant it.
For as things stood, nothing they now said could be made valid without consulting the senate, and besides the general advantage of arriving at a knowledge of the will of the senate, the immediate future was a favourable time for taking this course.
The armies, in fact, could do nothing owing to the winter, and therefore to devote this time to referring the matter to the senate was by no means useless, but in the interest of them all.