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Book 24 - Chapter 15

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<w lemma="katapolemei%3Dn">καταπολεμεῖν</w>. <w lemma="paragenome%2Fnwn">παραγενομένων</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="pre%2Fsbewn">πρέσβεων</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="parakalou%2Fntwn">παρακαλούντων</w> <w lemma="lu%2Fein">λύειν</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="po%2Flemon">πόλεμον</w>, <w lemma="e%29%2Ffasan">ἔφασαν</w> <w lemma="me%5Cn">μὲν</w> <w lemma="oi%28">οἱ</w> <w lemma="peri%5C">περὶ</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2Aeu%29me%2Fnh">Εὐμένη</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2A%29ariara%2Fqhn">Ἀριαράθην</w> <w lemma="e%28%2Ftoimoi">ἕτοιμοι</w> <w lemma="pro%5Cs">πρὸς</w> <w lemma="pa%3Dn">πᾶν</w> <w lemma="ei%29%3Dnai">εἶναι</w> <w lemma="to%5C">τὸ</w> <w lemma="parakalou%2Fmenon">παρακαλούμενον</w>,
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<w lemma="h%29ci%2Foun">ἠξίουν</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="tou%5Cs">τοὺς</w> <w lemma="%2A%28rwmai%2Fous">Ῥωμαίους</w>, <w lemma="ei%29">εἰ</w> <w lemma="me%2Fn">μέν</w> <w lemma="e%29sti">ἐστι</w> <w lemma="dunato%2Fn">δυνατόν</w>, <w lemma="ei%29s">εἰς</w> <w lemma="su%2Fllogon">σύλλογον</w> <w lemma="au%29tou%5Cs">αὐτοὺς</w> <w lemma="sunagagei%3Dn">συναγαγεῖν</w> <w lemma="pro%5Cs">πρὸς</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2Afarna%2Fkhn">Φαρνάκην</w>, <w lemma="i%28%2Fna">ἵνα</w> <w lemma="kata%5C">κατὰ</w> <w lemma="pro%2Fswpon">πρόσωπον</w> <w lemma="legome%2Fnwn">λεγομένων</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="lo%2Fgwn">λόγων</w> <w lemma="i%29%2Fdwsi">ἴδωσι</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="a%29qesi%2Fan">ἀθεσίαν</w> <w lemma="au%29tou%3D">αὐτοῦ</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="w%29mo%2Fthta">ὠμότητα</w> <w lemma="dia%5C">διὰ</w> <w lemma="pleio%2Fnwn:">πλειόνων·</w>
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<w lemma="ei%29">εἰ</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="mh%5C">μὴ</w> <w lemma="tou%3Dt%27">τοῦτ᾽</w> <w lemma="ei%29%2Fh">εἴη</w> <w lemma="dunato%2Fn">δυνατόν</w>, <w lemma="au%29tou%5Cs">αὐτοὺς</w> <w lemma="gene%2Fsqai">γενέσθαι</w> <w lemma="krita%5Cs">κριτὰς</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="pragma%2Ftwn">πραγμάτων</w> <w lemma="i%29%2Fsous">ἴσους</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="dikai%2Fous">δικαίους</w>.
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<w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="presbeutw%3Dn">πρεσβευτῶν</w> <w lemma="a%29nadexome%2Fnwn">ἀναδεχομένων</w> <w lemma="pa%2Fnta">πάντα</w> <w lemma="ta%5C">τὰ</w> <w lemma="dunata%5C">δυνατὰ</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="kalw%3Ds">καλῶς</w> <w lemma="e%29%2Fxonta">ἔχοντα</w> <w lemma="poih%2Fsein">ποιήσειν</w>, <w lemma="a%29ciou%2Fntwn">ἀξιούντων</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="stratia%5Cn">στρατιὰν</w> <w lemma="a%29pa%2Fgein">ἀπάγειν</w> <w lemma="e%29k">ἐκ</w> <w lemma="th%3Ds">τῆς</w> <w lemma="xw%2Fras:">χώρας·</w>
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<w lemma="a%29%2Ftopon">ἄτοπον</w> <w lemma="ga%5Cr">γὰρ</w> <w lemma="ei%29%3Dnai">εἶναι</w> <w lemma="paro%2Fntwn">παρόντων</w> <w lemma="pre%2Fsbewn">πρέσβεων</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="lo%2Fgous">λόγους</w> <w lemma="poioume%2Fnwn">ποιουμένων</w> <w lemma="u%28pe%5Cr">ὑπὲρ</w> <w lemma="dialu%2Fsewn">διαλύσεων</w>, <w lemma="a%28%2Fma">ἅμα</w> <w lemma="parei%3Dnai">παρεῖναι</w> <w lemma="ta%5C">τὰ</w> <w lemma="tou%3D">τοῦ</w> <w lemma="pole%2Fmou">πολέμου</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="kakopoiei%3Dn">κακοποιεῖν</w> <w lemma="a%29llh%2Flous:">ἀλλήλους·</w>
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<w lemma="sunexw%2Frhsan">συνεχώρησαν</w> <w lemma="oi%28">οἱ</w> <w lemma="peri%5C">περὶ</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2Aeu%29me%2Fnh">Εὐμένη</w>, <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="th%3D%7C">τῇ</w> <w lemma="kata%5C">κατὰ</w> <w lemma="po%2Fdas">πόδας</w> <w lemma="eu%29qe%2Fws">εὐθέως</w> <w lemma="a%29nazeu%2Fcantes">ἀναζεύξαντες</w> <w lemma="ou%28%3Dtoi">οὗτοι</w> <w lemma="proh%3Dgon">προῆγον</w> <w lemma="w%28s">ὡς</w> <w lemma="e%29pi%5C">ἐπὶ</w> <w lemma="%2Agalati%2Fas">Γαλατίας</w>.
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<w lemma="oi%28">οἱ</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="%2A%28rwmai%3Doi">Ῥωμαῖοι</w> <w lemma="pro%5Cs">πρὸς</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2Afarna%2Fkhn">Φαρνάκην</w> <w lemma="summi%2Fcantes">συμμίξαντες</w> <w lemma="prw%3Dton">πρῶτον</w> <w lemma="me%5Cn">μὲν</w> <w lemma="h%29ci%2Foun">ἠξίουν</w> <w lemma="au%29to%5Cn">αὐτὸν</w> <w lemma="ei%29s">εἰς</w> <w lemma="lo%2Fgous">λόγους</w> <w lemma="e%29lqei%3Dn">ἐλθεῖν</w> <w lemma="toi%3Ds">τοῖς</w> <w lemma="peri%5C">περὶ</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2Aeu%29me%2Fnh:">Εὐμένη·</w> <w lemma="ma%2Flista">μάλιστα</w> <w lemma="ga%5Cr">γὰρ</w> <w lemma="a%29%5Cn">ἂν</w> <w lemma="ou%28%2Ftw">οὕτω</w> <w lemma="tuxei%3Dn">τυχεῖν</w> <w lemma="ta%5C">τὰ</w> <w lemma="pra%2Fgmata">πράγματα</w> <w lemma="diecagwgh%3Ds">διεξαγωγῆς</w>.
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<w lemma="tou%3D">τοῦ</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="pro%5Cs">πρὸς</w> <w lemma="tou%3Dto">τοῦτο</w> <w lemma="to%5C">τὸ</w> <w lemma="me%2Fros">μέρος</w> <w lemma="a%29ntibai%2Fnontos">ἀντιβαίνοντος</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="te%2Flos">τέλος</w> <w lemma="a%29peipame%2Fnou">ἀπειπαμένου</w>, <w lemma="dh%3Dlon">δῆλον</w> <w lemma="me%5Cn">μὲν</w> <w lemma="eu%29qe%2Fws">εὐθέως</w> <w lemma="h%29%3Dn">ἦν</w> <w lemma="tou%3Dto">τοῦτο</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="%2A%28rwmai%2Fois">Ῥωμαίοις</w> <w lemma="o%28%2Fti">ὅτι</w> <w lemma="kataginw%2Fskei">καταγινώσκει</w> <w lemma="profanw%3Ds">προφανῶς</w> <w lemma="e%28autou%3D">ἑαυτοῦ</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="diapistei%3D">διαπιστεῖ</w> <w lemma="toi%3Ds">τοῖς</w> <w lemma="sfete%2Frois">σφετέροις</w> <w lemma="pra%2Fgmasi:">πράγμασι·</w>
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<w lemma="pa%2Fnth%7C">πάντῃ</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="pa%2Fntws">πάντως</w> <w lemma="boulo%2Fmenoi">βουλόμενοι</w> <w lemma="lu%3Dsai">λῦσαι</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="po%2Flemon">πόλεμον</w> <w lemma="prosekarte%2Froun">προσεκαρτέρουν</w>, <w lemma="e%28%2Fws">ἕως</w> <w lemma="ou%28%3D">οὗ</w> <w lemma="sunexw%2Frhse">συνεχώρησε</w> <w lemma="pe%2Fmyein">πέμψειν</w> <w lemma="au%29tokra%2Ftoras">αὐτοκράτορας</w> <w lemma="e%29pi%5C">ἐπὶ</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2Ape%2Frgamon">Πέργαμον</w> <w lemma="kata%5C">κατὰ</w> <w lemma="qa%2Flattan">θάλατταν</w> <w lemma="tou%5Cs">τοὺς</w> <w lemma="sunqhsome%2Fnous">συνθησομένους</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="ei%29rh%2Fnhn">εἰρήνην</w>, <w lemma="e%29f%27">ἐφ᾽</w> <w lemma="oi%28%3Ds">οἷς</w> <w lemma="a%29%5Cn">ἂν</w> <w lemma="oi%28">οἱ</w> <w lemma="presbeutai%5C">πρεσβευταὶ</w> <w lemma="keleu%2Fswsin">κελεύσωσιν</w>.
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<w lemma="a%29fikome%2Fnwn">ἀφικομένων</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="pre%2Fsbewn">πρέσβεων</w>, <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="sunelqo%2Fntwn">συνελθόντων</w> <w lemma="o%28mou%3D">ὁμοῦ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="te">τε</w> <w lemma="%2A%28rwmai%2Fwn">Ῥωμαίων</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="peri%5C">περὶ</w> <w lemma="%2Aeu%29me%2Fnh">Εὐμένη</w>, <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="tou%2Ftwn">τούτων</w> <w lemma="me%5Cn">μὲν</w> <w lemma="ei%29s">εἰς</w> <w lemma="a%28%2Fpan">ἅπαν</w> <w lemma="e%28toi%2Fmws">ἑτοίμως</w> <w lemma="sugkatabaino%2Fntwn">συγκαταβαινόντων</w> <w lemma="xa%2Frin">χάριν</w> <w lemma="tou%3D">τοῦ</w> <w lemma="suntelesqh%3Dnai">συντελεσθῆναι</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="ei%29rh%2Fnhn">εἰρήνην</w>,
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<w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="para%5C">παρὰ</w> <w lemma="tou%3D">τοῦ</w> <w lemma="%2Afarna%2Fkou">Φαρνάκου</w> <w lemma="pro%5Cs">πρὸς</w> <w lemma="pa%3Dn">πᾶν</w> <w lemma="diaferome%2Fnwn">διαφερομένων</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="toi%3Ds">τοῖς</w> <w lemma="o%28mologhqei%3Dsin">ὁμολογηθεῖσιν</w> <w lemma="ou%29k">οὐκ</w> <w lemma="e%29mmeno%2Fntwn">ἐμμενόντων</w>, <w lemma="a%29ll%27">ἀλλ᾽</w> <w lemma="ai%29ei%2F">αἰεί</w> <w lemma="ti">τι</w> <w lemma="prosepizhtou%2Fntwn">προσεπιζητούντων</w> <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="metamelome%2Fnwn">μεταμελομένων</w>, <w lemma="taxe%2Fws">ταχέως</w> <w lemma="toi%3Ds">τοῖς</w> <w lemma="%2A%28rwmai%2Fois">Ῥωμαίοις</w> <w lemma="e%29ge%2Fneto">ἐγένετο</w> <w lemma="dh%3Dlon">δῆλον</w> <w lemma="o%28%2Fti">ὅτι</w> <w lemma="mataioponou%3Dsin">ματαιοπονοῦσιν</w>. <w lemma="ou%29">οὐ</w> <w lemma="ga%5Cr">γὰρ</w> <w lemma="oi%28%3Dos">οἷος</w> <w lemma="t%27">τ᾽</w> <w lemma="h%29%3Dn">ἦν</w> <w lemma="sugkatabai%2Fnein">συγκαταβαίνειν</w> <w lemma="o%28">ὁ</w> <w lemma="%2Afarna%2Fkhs">Φαρνάκης</w> <w lemma="ei%29s">εἰς</w> <w lemma="ta%5Cs">τὰς</w> <w lemma="dialu%2Fseis">διαλύσεις</w>.
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<w lemma="o%28%2Fqen">ὅθεν</w> <w lemma="a%29pra%2Fktou">ἀπράκτου</w> <w lemma="genome%2Fnhs">γενομένης</w> <w lemma="th%3Ds">τῆς</w> <w lemma="koinologi%2Fas">κοινολογίας</w>, <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="%2A%28rwmai%2Fwn">Ῥωμαίων</w> <w lemma="a%29pallage%2Fntwn">ἀπαλλαγέντων</w> <w lemma="e%29k">ἐκ</w> <w lemma="tou%3D">τοῦ</w> <w lemma="%2Aperga%2Fmou">Περγάμου</w>, <w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="para%5C">παρὰ</w> <w lemma="tou%3D">τοῦ</w> <w lemma="%2Afarna%2Fkou">Φαρνάκου</w> <w lemma="pre%2Fsbewn">πρέσβεων</w> <w lemma="a%29poluqe%2Fntwn">ἀπολυθέντων</w> <w lemma="ei%29s">εἰς</w> <w lemma="th%5Cn">τὴν</w> <w lemma="oi%29kei%2Fan">οἰκείαν</w>, <w lemma="o%28">ὁ</w> <w lemma="me%5Cn">μὲν</w> <w lemma="po%2Flemos">πόλεμος</w> <w lemma="e%29gege%2Fnhto">ἐγεγένητο</w> <w lemma="kata%2Fmonos">κατάμονος</w>, <w lemma="oi%28">οἱ</w> <w lemma="de%5C">δὲ</w> <w lemma="peri%5C">περὶ</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2Aeu%29me%2Fnh">Εὐμένη</w> <w lemma="pa%2Flin">πάλιν</w> <w lemma="e%29gi%2Fnonto">ἐγίνοντο</w> <w lemma="peri%5C">περὶ</w> <w lemma="ta%5Cs">τὰς</w> <w lemma="ei%29s">εἰς</w> <w lemma="tou%3Dton">τοῦτον</w> <w lemma="paraskeua%2Fs">παρασκευάς</w>.
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<w lemma="e%29n">ἐν</w> <w lemma="w%28%3D%7C">ᾧ</w> <w lemma="kairw%3D%7C">καιρῷ</w> <w lemma="tw%3Dn">τῶν</w> <w lemma="%2A%28rodi%2Fwn">Ῥοδίων</w> <w lemma="e%29pispasame%2Fnwn">ἐπισπασαμένων</w> <w lemma="to%5Cn">τὸν</w> <w lemma="%2Aeu%29me%2Fnh">Εὐμένη</w> [<w lemma="kai%5C">καὶ</w>] <w lemma="filoti%2Fmws">φιλοτίμως</w>, <w lemma="ou%28%3Dtos">οὗτος</w> <w lemma="me%5Cn">μὲν</w> <w lemma="e%29cw%2Frmhse">ἐξώρμησε</w> <w lemma="meta%5C">μετὰ</w> <w lemma="pollh%3Ds">πολλῆς</w> <w lemma="spoudh%3Ds">σπουδῆς</w>, <w lemma="pra%2Fcwn">πράξων</w> <w lemma="ta%5C">τὰ</w> <w lemma="kata%5C">κατὰ</w> <w lemma="tou%5Cs">τοὺς</w> <w lemma="%2Aluki%2Fous">Λυκίους</w> ?<w lemma=""></w>*
<head>Philopoemen's Policy</head>Philopoemen, however, said that "People should not<note anchored="yes" place="marg" id="note32">Philopoemen's answer in defence of his policy.</note>suppose him so stupid as not to be able to estimate the difference between the Achaean and Roman states, or the superiority of the power of the latter. But as it is the inevitable tendency of the stronger to oppress the weaker, can it be expedient to assist the designs of the superior power, and to put no obstacle in their way, so as to experience as soon as possible the utmost of their tyranny? Is it not, on the contrary, better to resist and struggle to the utmost of our power? . . . And if they persist in forcing their injunctions upon us,<note anchored="yes" place="unspecified" id="note33">Something is lost from the text.</note>. . . and if, by reminding them of the facts we do something to soften their resolution, we shall at any rate mitigate the harshness of their rule to a certain extent; especially as up to this time the Romans, as you yourself say, Aristaenus, have always made a great point of fidelity to oaths, treaties, and promises to allies. But if we at once condemn the justice of our own cause, and, like captives of the spear, offer an unquestioning submission to every order, what will be the difference between the Achaeans and the Sicilians or Capuans, who have been notoriously slaves this long time past? Therefore it must either be admitted that the justice of a cause has no weight with the Romans, or, if we do not venture to say that, we must stand by our rights, and not abandon our own cause, especially as our position in regard to <a class="linkToPlace" target="_blank" href="/place?placename=Rome&groupId=935&placeId=1669">Rome</a> is exceedingly strong and<pb n="347" />honourable. That the time will come when the Greeks will be forced to give unlimited obedience, I know full well. But would one wish to see this time as soon or as late as possible? Surely as late as possible! In this, then, my policy differs from that of Aristaenus. He wishes to see the inevitable arrive as quickly as possible, and even to help it to come: I wish to the best of my power to resist and ward it off."From these speeches it was made clear that while the policy of the one was honourable, of the other undignified, both were founded on considerations of safety. Wherefore while both Romans and Greeks were at that time threatened with serious dangers from Philip and Antiochus, yet both these statesmen maintained the rights of the Achaeans in regard to the Romans undiminished; though a report found its way about that Aristaenus was better affected to the Romans than Philopoemen. . . .<pb />